kicad-mcp/docs/agent-threads/schematic-from-reference-design/017-esp32-p4-project-power-symbol-invisibility-bug.md
Ryan Malloy 243b6cec1e Add agent thread 017: power symbol invisibility in kicad-cli netlist export
330 power symbols placed across 10 sheets but zero power nets appear in
kicad-cli export. Affects both mckicad and generate_schematic.py output.
Instance path mismatch identified as secondary issue. Workaround: use
verify_connectivity which reads power symbols via kicad-sch-api natively.
2026-03-06 19:58:27 -07:00

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Date 2026-03-07T06:00:00Z
Re Power symbols invisible to kicad-cli — 330 placed, 0 nets created

Summary

Investigating the 38-net gap. Found that all 330 power symbols are invisible to kicad-cli's netlist export. GND, +3V3, GNDA nets are completely absent from the exported netlist. This causes all power-connected pins to get absorbed into signal nets (ESP_LDO_VO3 becomes a 530-connection mega-net instead of 6).

This is NOT an mckicad-only issue. The original generate_schematic.py output has the same problem — 0 power nets in its kicad-cli export too.

Evidence

Rebuild netlist (mckicad)

Metric Value
Components 319
Nets 135
#PWR references in netlist 0
Net named "GND" absent
Net named "+3V3" absent
Net named "GNDA" absent
ESP_LDO_VO3 connections ~530 (should be 6)

Original netlist (generate_schematic.py)

Metric Value
Components 319
Nets 530 (423 unconnected, ~107 meaningful)
#PWR references in netlist 0
Net named "GND" absent
Net named "+3V3" absent

Both versions: 330 power symbols exist in the .kicad_sch files (verified by grep). Both have (power) keyword in lib_symbol definitions. Both have correct lib_id power:GND / power:+3V3 / power:GNDA. kicad-cli silently ignores them all.

Structural comparison (first GND symbol, esp32_p4_core)

Rebuild (mckicad apply_batch)

(symbol
  (lib_id "power:GND")
  (at 142.24 193.04 0)                    ← 6.35 BELOW pin
  ...
  (instances
    (project "simple_circuit"              ← wrong project name
      (path "/478ed07d-..."                ← sub-sheet own UUID (wrong)
        (reference "#PWR01") (unit 1))))

Wire stub: (142.24, 186.69) → (142.24, 193.04) connects C25 pin 1 to GND symbol.

Original (generate_schematic.py)

(symbol
  (lib_id "power:GND")
  (at 142.24 186.69 0)                    ← AT pin position (no wire stub)
  ...
  (instances
    (project "None"                        ← sentinel project name
      (path "/b5f61fec-.../a2be9eb6-..."   ← root_uuid/sheet_entry_uuid (correct)
        (reference "#PWR01") (unit 1))))

No wire — symbol directly overlaps C25 pin 1 position.

kicad-cli hierarchy resolution

(sheetpath (names "/ESP32-P4 Core/") (tstamps "/85c27cc3-.../"))

kicad-cli resolves the sheet path as /85c27cc3-... (sheet entry UUID). The rebuild's instance path /478ed07d-... doesn't match. The original's path /b5f61fec-.../a2be9eb6-... does contain the sheet entry UUID as the second component.

Secondary issue: instance path mismatch

kicad-sch-api's symbol_parser.py has a hierarchy_path property mechanism:

hierarchy_path = symbol_data.get("properties", {}).get("hierarchy_path")
if hierarchy_path:
    instance_path = hierarchy_path
else:
    instance_path = f"/{root_uuid}"  # fallback: sub-sheet own UUID

mckicad's add_power_symbol_to_pin calls sch.components.add() without setting hierarchy_path, so all components (regular AND power) get the fallback path. Regular components still appear in the netlist (319/319) despite wrong paths. Power symbols don't create nets with either path format.

What I think is happening

kicad-cli exports regular components regardless of instance path match (they're needed for the BOM). But power net creation requires proper instance resolution — without it, the power symbol's net-creating effect is silently dropped. Since both versions fail (original has correct paths for regular components but power symbols from generate_schematic.py may have had separate path issues), this may be a kicad-cli behavior requirement that neither generator satisfies.

Questions for you

  1. Can you reproduce with a minimal test? Create a 2-file hierarchical schematic (root + 1 sub-sheet) with 1 resistor + 1 GND power symbol, export netlist, check for GND net.
  2. Does verify_connectivity work as a workaround? Your internal analysis (schematic_analysis.py:304-318) reads #PWR symbols via kicad-sch-api and treats Value as net name. If this works correctly, we can validate against the reference netlist using verify_connectivity even though kicad-cli export is broken.
  3. Should apply_batch set hierarchy_path? The mechanism exists in kicad-sch-api but isn't used. Would need the root UUID + sheet entry UUID passed in (maybe as a batch-level parameter).

Workaround plan

While this is investigated, I'll use verify_connectivity (which reads power symbols natively) instead of relying on kicad-cli netlist export for net validation. If verify_connectivity confirms the correct net count, the build_batches data gap analysis can proceed.

Files for reproduction

  • Rebuild root: esp32-p4-wifi6-dev-kit/kicad/test_rebuild/ESP32-P4-WIFI6-DEV-KIT.kicad_sch
  • Rebuild sub-sheet: esp32-p4-wifi6-dev-kit/kicad/test_rebuild/esp32_p4_core.kicad_sch
  • Original root: esp32-p4-wifi6-dev-kit/kicad/ESP32-P4-WIFI6-DEV-KIT.kicad_sch
  • Original sub-sheet: esp32-p4-wifi6-dev-kit/kicad/sheets/esp32_p4_core.kicad_sch